Scouting the 2009 Futures Game with Pitchf/x

[Mike Rogers]

I'll post more later. I've still got Danny Duffy, Jarrod Parker, Trevor Reckling, JC Sulbaran, Chia-Len Lo, and Junichi Tazawa left to look at. Are the others really prospects? I'm speaking of Yohan Flande, Leyson Septimo, Luis Perez and anyone else I haven't covered already, yet? Should I take a look at them?

[MasMacho]

I'll post more later. I've still got Danny Duffy, Jarrod Parker, Trevor Reckling, JC Sulbaran, Chia-Len Lo, and Junichi Tazawa left to look at. Are the others really prospects? I'm speaking of Yohan Flande, Leyson Septimo, Luis Perez and anyone else I haven't covered already, yet? Should I take a look at them?

Flande and Perez looked LOOGY-like to me. Potentially good lefty RPs, but not top prospects imo. Septimo should be worth a look as he's a lefty RP with set-up/closer upside. Lo was interesting. Very tentative and thus hard to gauge. Has that pause in his delivery that so many pitchers seem to sport these days. Good luck with Parker (graphing four pitches).

I wish you could have seen these guys. The natural addition to this sort of analysis is judging a guy's delivery, physique, demeanor, fluidity etc. Maybe someone recorded it and would dupe it for a nominal fee?

[MasMacho]

In my mind, I'm taking about 1-3 MPH off of the fastballs for each of these guys under the assumption that they were going max-effort on each pitch given their short outings they were guaranteed. If so, and he's really around 90-91, I'm not so sure I like the fastball quite as much. Just speculating, though.

A reasonable assumption, but I didn't get the impression that he was muscling up at all. What I liked about him and Drabek was that they seemed to treat it like a routine inning, mixing in their pitches and throwing at easily sustainable velocities. I mean, Kelly got through his inning in nine pitches?

The '09 BA Handbook notes his FB at 90-91, asserting that its late life and his command of it make it close to a plus-plus pitch. Power spin on the CB. Seems spot on from this game. Props to Callis for the write-up.

[Mike Rogers]

Flande and Perez looked LOOGY-like to me. Potentially good lefty RPs, but not top prospects imo. Septimo should be worth a look as he's a lefty RP with set-up/closer upside. Lo was interesting. Very tentative and thus hard to gauge. Has that pause in his delivery that so many pitchers seem to sport these days. Good luck with Parker (graphing four pitches).

I wish you could have seen these guys. The natural addition to this sort of analysis is judging a guy's delivery, physique, demeanor, fluidity etc. Maybe someone recorded it and would dupe it for a nominal fee?

Ahh, gotcha. I'll take a look at Septimo, then. Hah, I saw that Parker had just 4 pitches. I'll graph it anyways, just for fun (and for how easy it is to do).

I wish I could've seen it, too. I'm lagging in like 2002 without a tivo, and being busy didn't allot me the time to watch it. Sucks.

[Mike Rogers]

A reasonable assumption, but I didn't get the impression that he was muscling up at all. What I liked about him and Drabek was that they seemed to treat it like a routine inning, mixing in their pitches and throwing at easily sustainable velocities. I mean, Kelly got through his inning in nine pitches?

The '09 BA Handbook notes his FB at 90-91, asserting that its late life and his command of it make it close to a plus-plus pitch. Power spin on the CB. Seems spot on from this game. Props to Callis for the write-up.

Gotcha. If he wasn't muscling up and really is around 93 on average, that's better, but with his curve, i could live with 91.

[dougdirt]

I'll post more later. I've still got Danny Duffy, Jarrod Parker, Trevor Reckling, JC Sulbaran, Chia-Len Lo, and Junichi Tazawa left to look at. Are the others really prospects? I'm speaking of Yohan Flande, Leyson Septimo, Luis Perez and anyone else I haven't covered already, yet? Should I take a look at them?

Good luck looking at Tazawa.... he didn't pitch because of the rain.

[Mike Rogers]

I'll post more later. I've still got Danny Duffy, Jarrod Parker, Trevor Reckling, JC Sulbaran, Chia-Len Lo, and Junichi Tazawa left to look at. Are the others really prospects? I'm speaking of Yohan Flande, Leyson Septimo, Luis Perez and anyone else I haven't covered already, yet? Should I take a look at them?

Good luck looking at Tazawa.... he didn't pitch because of the rain.

Well, are you just a fun ruiner, Mr. Dirt.

[dougdirt]

I'll post more later. I've still got Danny Duffy, Jarrod Parker, Trevor Reckling, JC Sulbaran, Chia-Len Lo, and Junichi Tazawa left to look at. Are the others really prospects? I'm speaking of Yohan Flande, Leyson Septimo, Luis Perez and anyone else I haven't covered already, yet? Should I take a look at them?

Good luck looking at Tazawa.... he didn't pitch because of the rain.

Well, are you just a fun ruiner, Mr. Dirt.

I have been told that before lol.

[MasMacho]

A reasonable assumption, but I didn't get the impression that he was muscling up at all. What I liked about him and Drabek was that they seemed to treat it like a routine inning, mixing in their pitches and throwing at easily sustainable velocities. I mean, Kelly got through his inning in nine pitches?

The '09 BA Handbook notes his FB at 90-91, asserting that its late life and his command of it make it close to a plus-plus pitch. Power spin on the CB. Seems spot on from this game. Props to Callis for the write-up.

Gotcha. If he wasn't muscling up and really is around 93 on average, that's better, but with his curve, i could live with 91.

He's still young, so more velo coming? Even if not, he looks like a #3 innings eater at worst with a chance to be more. Great build, with a strong lower half and trunk.

[MasMacho]

Hey Mike, one of the guys over at Driveline did a similar analysis in case you wanted to compare notes.

Drabek's getting slagged a little (was it the same KG chat that generated the Harper comments?) as a middle of the rotation guy tops. Someone said he was undersized too. Is that the same Drabek? His calves were huge, and he looked damned solidly built to me. Am I misremembering?

[HighProfile]

Drabeks a thick kid. I saw him several times in the off season. He has ability to throw mid 90's with ease. I think he is better off 91-93. He can bump it up when he wants.

[MasMacho]

Drabeks a thick kid.

Yeah, I don't get this *slightly built* stuff. Now his Dad was slightly built...

[Mike Rogers]

Hey Mike, one of the guys over at Driveline did a similar analysis in case you wanted to compare notes.

Drabek's getting slagged a little (was it the same KG chat that generated the Harper comments?) as a middle of the rotation guy tops. Someone said he was undersized too. Is that the same Drabek? His calves were huge, and he looked damned solidly built to me. Am I misremembering?

I read that piece over at DM -- love that site (and baseball intellect, too. RIP Saber Scouting, though )

I don't agree with the MOTR ceiling for Drabek. I don't know how good his third pitch is, but if it comes along to be at least something he can show LH batters, I think he can be a very good No. 2. Good velocity and movement with a killer breaking ball. I think he could be an effective middle reliever in the bigs tomorrow.

[MasMacho]

Hey Mike, one of the guys over at Driveline did a similar analysis in case you wanted to compare notes.

Drabek's getting slagged a little (was it the same KG chat that generated the Harper comments?) as a middle of the rotation guy tops. Someone said he was undersized too. Is that the same Drabek? His calves were huge, and he looked damned solidly built to me. Am I misremembering?

I read that piece over at DM -- love that site (and baseball intellect, too. RIP Saber Scouting, though )

I don't agree with the MOTR ceiling for Drabek. I don't know how good his third pitch is, but if it comes along to be at least something he can show LH batters, I think he can be a very good No. 2. Good velocity and movement with a killer breaking ball. I think he could be an effective middle reliever in the bigs tomorrow.

Yeah, I'm on Alex's Baseball Intellect RSS feed. Love his stuff, and he's a nice guy to boot. You and he are both early 20s, right? Make's me sick...

I liked what I saw out of Drabek a lot. I don't mind his being underrated. It'll help him in the long run imo. I think worst case he's middle of rotation. The Phillies have a lot of top shelf talent to manage right now, and it will be interesting to see how the go about getting Drabek, Taylor and Brown to the bigs on schedule.

[Mike Rogers]

[quote="MasMachYeah, I'm on Alex's Baseball Intellect RSS feed. Love his stuff, and he's a nice guy to boot. You and he are both early 20s, right? Make's me sick...

I liked what I saw out of Drabek a lot. I don't mind his being underrated. It'll help him in the long run imo. I think worst case he's middle of rotation. The Phillies have a lot of top shelf talent to manage right now, and it will be interesting to see how the go about getting Drabek, Taylor and Brown to the bigs on schedule.[/quote]
I'm not sure how old Alex is. I am 23.

I'm looking forward to how the Phillies handle these guys and if they deal any of them.